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YT02 | 26-Year Old Shares What It Takes To Succeed For The New Generation Of Singaporeans – Rae Fung

Meet Rae. She is a speaker, coach and talk show host with Scape Media and Entertainment in Singapore. In this interview Rae shares her journey in public speaking and her tips for discovering and pursuing your passion – and lessons learnt in sharing those desires with your parents! She believes in empowering young Singaporeans to Own Their Voice. As she says so eloquently: use your voice, do it now!

Discussion Topics: Young Singaporean shares her journey from struggle to success – Rae Fung

  • Welcoming the guest
  • Childhood years
  • Becoming an emcee
  • When things got tough
  • Where Singapore is heading
  • A Dream to Be an Asian Oprah
  • Have the courage to use your voice

Transcript: Young Singaporean shares her journey from struggle to success – Rae Fung

Yana Fry: Rae, welcome to YanaTV. I’m so excited.

Rae Fung: Thank you so much for having me. I’m honestly really, really honored to be part of this beautiful setup and your beautiful show, YanaTV, and I’m excited for our cozy conversation.

Yana Fry: Yes, With our cozy cup of tea. Exactly. Speaking about the cozy conversation, I would love to learn even more about you.

So share with us a little bit. I understand you were born and brought up in Singapore. Just a bit more like, which school did you go to and did you move within Singapore from one side to another during your upbringing?

Rae Fung: So since young, I mean I was born and bred in Singapore. I would say that I am a pretty true blue Singaporean.

You know, growing up my parents always asked me to study hard. I think most Singaporeans would kind of really resonate with that. Study hard, and do well in school, do your best, and get a good job. And that was kind of what was drilled into me growing up. So I went to a primary school in Raffles Girls’ Primary School, which is actually one of the best, I think primary schools in Singapore.

So my parents voted, they put in their ballot and they hoped that they would get it. And we got in. Congratulations. That was kind of like a huge win for them. Yeah. Because a lot of people wanna go to that school. Yeah. And then after I graduated, I went into just a common neighbourhood school.

And then a junior college. And then university, all local. I’ve never been to any international schools and all that is pretty much, you know, local schools. And I studied communications at NTU, so it was one of the, if I’m not wrong, one of the best communication programs in Singapore.

And I think growing up I’ve, I’ve been obedient. I’ve always wanted to do really well in school. I tried my best and I think like anybody, You just wanna do your very best and be validated for your strengths. And so I did. I studied really high. I tried my best to do really well in school and honestly, I was really average at best.

Yana Fry: I like your honesty, but also probably humility.

Rae Fung: Yeah, no,  I mean seriously, I was really average in university as my friends got their As. I tried my best and I got a B and you might think, Hey, you know, B isn’t that bad. But for some reason, In my batch. In university, everybody was super smart and got really good grades very easily.

And if you get a B when everybody gets an A, you don’t do very well on the bell curve. And that would mean that I wouldn’t be able to get as good a job and in my head at a point in time not getting a good job. And good pay was like death. You know, it was like an embarrassment to my parents, an embarrassment to society.

It sounds very extreme for me to think that, but you gotta imagine that since young, that was the notion that was taught to me, right? If you don’t,  if you’re not the cream of the crop, you’re gonna be lagging behind. If you are not, you know, above average and you’re slowly, slowly lagging behind, you, you’ll be nobody.

And, that was what was spiralling in my head over and over and over again throughout my academic years and even through university. 

Yana Fry: But then also it led you to be very proactive at a very young age. Right. I know, I mean, you, you look very young and I know you are young. You were 26, is it Correct? 

Rae Fung: Yeah, a hundred percent.

Yana Fry: So, and you have been doing MCing and being on stages for the last 10 years? So you started when you were 16?

Rae Fung: Yeah, 15 actually.

Yana Fry: Okay, 15. So tell me, tell me what led you to this.

Rae Fung: I wasn’t good in school. Okay. That was the motivation to go on stage. I wanted to feel good at something, you know, everybody wants to be good at something and I wanna find my thing.

And this is why I believe like each and every one of us, we have a gift that’s very natural to us, whether it’s speaking, whether it is, being on computers, whether it’s maths, whether it’s science, whether it’s researching history. And for me it was. Being in front of an audience. Speaking to people, being at events, bringing the energy into the place, and I didn’t know it then I just felt drawn to using my voice.

So when I was 15 years old, I was volunteering in the PS, in a community centre under the PS Association of Singapore. Wait, PS Youth Association of P A Y M for short? I should probably go and Google that. And, every constituency has a community centre and I volunteered as part of the YEC, which is the youth executive Committee.

So what we would do is we would organise events to better the constituency there. So we would maybe go into one-room flats to paint their flats. We would tutor kids that don’t really have money for tuition. And one of the events that we did were the BURNER award ceremonies. So a lot of the primary school students that did well in school, the minister would come and give them an award, which is great, and they need an MC for these birth series award ceremonies.

So I volunteered because I thought, hey, it’s probably good for my portfolio and I was so badly wanting to find something I was good at, so I just volunteered. And I think this is a quick tip for anybody that wants to use their voice. But you’re afraid to volunteer and do it for free because it feels way less pressurising.

Yana Fry: Absolutely. I mean, I definitely did a lot of that also at the beginning of my career. Tons of volunteering. Yeah. Yeah, you build the confidence, you build the experience, you build the network. And so here you go on stages. Okay. So you are at school not doing so well in your own eyes. Yeah. Right. And then you go on stage because you wanna feel better discovering your voice

Rae Fung: Yeah, a hundred percent. I just wanted to be heard because, in school, people were usually asked to stand up. And we clap by the entire class. Other people that did well in school. Like, I mean, teachers would literally say, Hey, you know, Tessa did really, really well in this exam. You know, everybody goes to learn from Tessa.

You know, it’s very casual, I am just praising. But I think what happens as a result of that is that the rest of us, at least I can speak for myself like I didn’t feel that I was seen. Because I feel like I was just average and I wanted so badly to be good at something. So I tried everything and, and at that point in time, the opportunity was to volunteer as an MC on stage.

And when I started hosting events, starting from bursary award ceremonies in front of ministers and then family carnivals, I realised just how much I loved it. I love being able to create an experience for someone and make someone happy, like people at the family carnival. Yeah, they’re attending this with their family, and I saw this as an opportunity to give them an experience of a good weekend.

And I was able to do that with my voice to elevate the energy of that and also then receive the recognition.

Yana Fry: Right. But you’re saying like indirectly, subconsciously,

Rae Fung: yeah. It’s like people are smiling at me. Exactly. People that show that I have an effect on someone that shows that I value giving, you know?

And so since I started doing that, I never stopped doing it ever since I started doing. I would say harder and more challenging events. So bigger and bigger crowds have scarier audiences people with VCs,  CEOs, and huge global events. I’ve done weddings, which I think is pretty pressurising because it’s someone’s a most important day.

Yana Fry: Well, you don’t wanna, you know, you don’t wanna say anything wrong during the weddings. Exactly.

Rae Fung: That’s for sure. So weddings had conferences. And as I started using my voice more, I built more trust in my unique voice and I started seeing my unique value. And I think it’s not just the opportunity of m MCing itself, but it’s also having the opportunity to connect with mentors.

My earlier mentors, when I was around 19 or 20 when they saw the value in me that I did not see in myself initially, they gave me that. An initial burst of courage to try something new, to use my voice even if I didn’t feel good enough, which is actually very important. 

Yana Fry: Also point right here. I think for, you know, for everyone who is watching good right now, it’s crucial to have people who believe in us, especially at this very younger tender age, that often we all question who am I?

What am I here to do? What are my talents? So there’s a person, as you said, who is actually believing. Yeah, this is great support.

Rae Fung: Yeah. And if there’s one thing that I hope we take away from this, this initial story, is that there is so much power in your voice. Mm. And you never know how a simple smile or a simple word of affirmation can change someone’s lives.

Like one of my first mentors, I don’t think she even wanted to be seen as a mentor. Like she was just someone that I respected. She was a choir leader in my church choir. Poem and that’s it. Like, you know, and there was one thing that she told me,   you know, as I was during that period in my teenage years, doubting myself and she could sense it.

I mean, I shared with her as well. She said, Rae, you have been consistently looking at other people’s treasure boxes. Have you ever thought of finding the key to yours? And her giving me her time and her care proved to me that I was worth caring for. And as a teenage girl, like that meant a lot.

That showed that someone believes in me enough to spend time with me. To share their voice with me, to share their story with me. And with that courage, I used it to continue, you know, bettering my craft, continue using my voice. And as I gained more confidence, I was able to inevitably use my voice to assure others as well.

So when I was 20, 21 years old, there were people that would come to me for advice on career, on confidence. They saw me speaking on stage. They were asking me if I had confidence.

Yana Fry: How do you do it, how do you do it? Exactly.

Rae Fung: Yeah. And it became a natural process because when you get mentored, When you get affirmed and you build your confidence within you, you will inevitably attract people.

They wanna hear your story, and then it becomes that give-and-take process and you contribute to the next person,

Yana Fry: which then means that also when we have this permission to truly show up who we are and really honour, but you were saying the voice and honour another story, then also it inspires other people to do the same.

Yeah, it’s exactly what they’re saying. Then you become this role model. And he’s still very young, which is phenomenal. Yeah. Yeah. And

Rae Fung: that other people come and ask a hundred percent. And I want you guys to know that I’m not perfect. I think, and, we look so nice in this very beautiful studio, and I did my makeup, but we all have days where we are just on a lion bed.

And I think that one of the reasons why people don’t use their voice is because they think they need to reach a certain level in order to use it. Someone might ask them for their insight and their advice, and they think, oh, you know, I’m nobody. I don’t want to really say anything because I’m gonna embarrass myself or me, it’s just not my place, but, You have something to share, you have a perspective to share.

Right. As a Singaporean Asian woman, I have my own unique perspective. I’m a Singaporean Asian woman who grew up in a very Christian family. Like I have my own unique perspective to share with someone else living in another country, or even if they’re living in Singapore, but they’re from a different culture, they have their own perspective to share as well, and they have their own group of people to inspire.

And someone out there is waiting for you to tell them that it’s okay to be themselves. And they’ll be inspired by you. But not by someone else outside. Not like Michelle Obama or something, even though she’s a great person.

Yana Fry: But yes, but not for everyone. Maybe to relate. Exactly. Right. Relatability. So we could relate more to our neighbours, people who look like us from events at the same school.

Rae Fung: That’s why we all have a place in this role and our voice has a place in this role. And that’s exactly what I hope to do. And. Every podcast that I do, every interview that I have every coaching opportunity, every client that I work with, every company that I go into, if there’s one thing that I wanna leave them with.

That there’s so much power in your voice, realise this and start using your voice.

Yana Fry: I will have to ask you now then, since we are talking about the voice. Yeah. Right. And as you said, rightfully, that we are here in a very, you know, perfect, polished environment. Yeah. Because that’s what talk shows we are for.

Yes. And we all dressed up and we always, the makeups and of course every human being would have low, bad, difficult days. And so now looking at you beautifully put together, you know, very well spoken and inspirational here. I would like to ask perhaps if you wanna share maybe one story which was difficult for you.

You know, something that when you found that it was tough and maybe didn’t know how to go further in life, and then so, and then what? What happened? So what was that lower moment that shaped you greatly into who you are today?

Rae Fung: I mean, there are so many low-choice ones. I know. I’ll choose one and I feel like I would choose this one because I think it’d be very relatable to a lot of Okay.

Younger Singaporeans, but even older ones. And I think one of my toughest periods was that period when I wanted to do freelance work outside of my university. But my parents weren’t really happy with that. They didn’t see my point of view, or rather, I wasn’t willing to share, and in their minds, they were thinking, Hey, you know, I.

I put you in university, I’m paying for your education, which I’m very grateful for. Not many people can have that. But for my parents, like, I’m paying for your education. Can you just study and not do other work outside because I don’t want you to harm your studies? Whereas from my perspective it’s not about making more money.

I just really love to train. I was doing freelance training, I was doing freelance MCing. I was doing sales outside of university while my university studies were happening. And I wanted to do those things because they made me alive. But from my parent’s perspective, they were afraid and destroyed my life.

Yana Fry: It’s making time and money. 

Rae Fung: potentially like you only have one time in university. Just make your best out of it. You can do all this later. I don’t know if you guys, you know, resonate with this. Your parents will say, can you do it later? Study first. Get

Yana Fry: that job first. I taught this very often, particularly in Singapore.

I mean, I have been here for 15 years. Yeah, and I am Singaporean now, right? Yeah. So, I mean, I was not born here and I don’t look Asian. Yeah. But when I take it, especially people from Asian families, it happens very often.

Rae Fung: Yeah. It’s like, can you do this later? Listen to us. This is what we know. I think listening to us is very relatable.

It’s like, you know, from their perspective, they have lived a longer life and they know what’s right. They know how to make a living and they wanna protect us as children, and that is why they’re giving all this advice. And from my perspective, I’m just like, A rebellious teen, right? By rebelliousness.

I think it’s a good kind of rebellious. My rebelliousness is going out to do things I’m passionate about, not like, you know, slacking, but I was rebellious. In the case of, I didn’t wanna tell them, I didn’t wanna talk to them. I didn’t wanna explain myself to them. I didn’t wanna go into a conversation needing to say, okay, I get what you’re saying.

Can you just let me do what I’m doing? I just.

Yana Fry: You wanted to own your voice.

Rae Fung: I understand. But I was doing it in a way that was very dismissive. Right. I didn’t want to explain myself. I was refusing to have a conversation with them. So this dragged dawn, I would be out late till 10:00 PM because I was at an event.

I was having coffee with my mentors and I would come back late, and they’ll ask me, so what were you doing yesterday? And I’m like, okay, I’ll talk to you later. And I could sense that that kind of affected our relationship. For a, you know, a year or two. I can’t even remember, but a good amount of time.

And I was feeling more distant from my parents, which made me very sad because I was really close to my parents and I. Family is very important to me and I don’t wanna, I don’t wanna not be close to my parents. It was very, very sad for me.  I just wish that they understood my point of view. But here’s the mistake.

I wish they understood my point of view, but I wasn’t willing to share my point of view. I wasn’t willing to have that tough conversation with them. And this degradation of our relationship was eating me up so much that I one day decided that I needed to sit down and actually have a conversation with them.

And I knew it was gonna be hard. I knew it was gonna take time. I know it was probably going to trigger me internally. I know it’s gonna just annoy me and make me frustrated, but I need it to breathe. And have a conversation with them. So number one is having the decision to have that tough conversation because I wanna retain their relationship.

And number two is making the decision to understand your highest values and share mine. There’s this one quote that I really love from Dr John Demartini who is an author speaker and Polymath. He says that everybody has their own highest values. And they’ll act. They’ll decide and they’ll speak in accordance with your highest values.

I love and expecting anybody to do anything outside of their highest values is just being delusional and your cause relationship breaks down and frustrations. And knowing that I said, okay, Rae, they might not know this principle. They might think they’re right, but what I need to do is to do my best to hold space for them, hold space for us, and understand your point of view.

Understand why they’re worried. And when I sat down and asked them, I mean, the worries were obvious. They were worried that I would destroy my future. They worry about my safety when I’m home late. And what I needed to do was to literally list it down and tackle the disagreements or tackle the worries one by one.

Like telling them that I had a plan for each of these worries. So if they’re worried that I’m home late, I tell them, okay, at 10:00 PM every day, I’ll text you. And I’ll let you know the names of the people I’m with. Asian parents love that, they don’t know who is Defensive. Yes. Yeah. They don’t know who the person is.

They just wanna know the name. It’s like I tell you, Sarah, do you know who Sarah is? No, but it’s okay. Just tell me. Okay. So tell them the name, give them what you, what they need. 

Yana Fry: So first, have the courage to have a conversation, right? And then be very clear about your values and how you communicated.

That’s number two. And then also ask what makes them comfortable to give you this extra space.

Rae Fung: A hundred percent. Yeah. And then the third thing would be to find a middle ground. Yeah. So find a middle ground and,   you might not be able to conclude this entire issue in one on one conversation, but you want to have some sort of middle ground for this season of life so that you have something to agree on.

You don’t wanna end the conversation with, okay, let’s talk about this another time. And nothing was concluded. Right? So there needs to be some sort of follow-up, have a middle ground, maybe you decide. Okay.   I’m glad we had this conversation. I think we can have this. Further conversation another time, but meanwhile, I will promise you [00:19:00] to text you at 10:00 PM or I promise you that every week I’ll update you on what I’m doing this week, freelance work and school work.

 . You know, have some sort of agreement so there’s some mutual understanding.

Yana Fry: Correct. You know, it’s a very interesting topic, and thank you for sharing. I mean, I know there’s always a big thing to share personally, at least family stories. I mean, for me, definitely when I go on podcasts and people are like, sharing something personal.

I’m always okay. It always takes a moment to do that. So, we do this to illustrate the point to inspire other people, and I’m sure there are so many now, especially what you said, younger people, but not necessarily only who would love maybe to have this different relationship with parents and now you just gave them like a blueprint on how to do that, which is amazing.

Yeah, and then also then that brings me to the next question since you are in my eyes. Representing one of those people who are the future of Singapore. You are the younger generation. You know, you are the more you kind of, you, you like any child that is developing, right? You are taking in what is happening in the world.

Yes. And Singapore is a young country that is changing and has grown exponentially in a very short period of time. I don’t know any other examples in the world where it was possible. So there’s definitely something happening here, and yet also, we always had this between parents and children and generations.

 So I would love to hear your perspective as the younger generation and representative of the younger generation. Where do you feel Singapore is heading to, or where would you like it to head to? It’s a tough question. 

Rae Fung: I feel like I’m a politician being asked, okay.

So this, in your ideal world, this is, this is my, this is my perspective. I feel like the reason why we’re able to progress so fast is because of our founding fathers. Did a brilliant job investing in people. Right, and our people, our, our literally one only natural human resource that’s not, you know, that, that we have here.

Which is the people. Which is our people. And this is something that I’ve heard from people coming to visit from Singapore, uh. Singapore as well. So I’ve some friends from America who came and they heard one news speech. They heard what he has done to build Singapore to where we are today.

And one remark that he had was, wow, I’m really impressed. By how the Singapore government takes care of its people. And we don’t have that in many other countries. In other countries. It’s very, okay, it’s your job to be successful. If you’re living in the streets, it’s your problem. Yeah. I’m not saying for every country, I’m saying for some countries like this.

For many. And I didn’t know that. I think being in Singapore we’re very protected. We’re very safe. There are so many grants, there are so many ways to live out your dream to get an education. And I also was born in a middle-class family, so I’m very, very blessed, I have to admit.

But I think, there is a little downside to all of this is that because we are investing in our people, there’s a lot of structure that people are subconsciously asked to follow. And the best way, for the best way for us to progress, I mean, this is, I feel in. What I noticed in the eyes of the leaders is that if millennials and Gen Zs and all of us young people follow this fixed path, like getting a good education, and getting a good job, then we’re able to grow Singapore fast.

That is what I see from a young person’s point of view but I feel like from a young person’s point of view, like growing up I felt very,   like fit into a box. In order to do well and get a high-paying job, you need to follow these steps. That was what was subconsciously taught to me.

Right. Do science instead of art stream. So if you take a look at when I was choosing, the art stream versus the science stream in junior college, it takes it, you need better grades, to get into the science stream than the art stream. Why is that the case? Like, I mean that already insinuates that the art stream is less, less important somehow.

Yana Fry: Right? Less important

Rae Fung: or less successful. Yeah. You don’t need to be as smart, but I think that that already insinuates that the arts are inferior to science. Right. But I feel like we can create more space for our younger generation to be able to explore their creativity and to tap into things like intuition, tap into inspiration and see exploring arts as something that’s beneficial to their career.

Then we’ll be able to have a more vibrant future like the future moving ahead. People will be happier.  I truly think that when we are not forced to follow steps, And instead given the environment to explore where our true interests and passions, and gifts lie, that is where each and every one of us we’re able to use our gifts to our fullest potential and do what’s natural to us.

And when you do what’s natural to you, you’re going to do so much better. And that’s what mom, money is gonna come in. But money and all these resources will come so naturally when you’re doing what you’re best at, not what. You’re taught to do. Yes.

Yana Fry: So what we are talking about here, basically finding out, first of all, what is your biggest gift.

And it might not fit into the framework of do this or do that. So you really have to listen to yourself and it just introduces maybe a bit more space and flow in the structure and a bit more creativity. Correct. And art to balance the mathematics. Yeah. And everything.

Rae Fung: And, I have a say that I think the government is doing that in some way.   I mean, there are nonprofits that literally give out grants. For musicians to have their own ep. Like my friend is a musician and she’s able to apply for these grants to fund her, her ep like her, her, you know, her album.

I mean that that’s amazing. I dunno, other countries do that. Right? Exactly. So there are also grants for people who wanna start their own company and if it helps the social cause they can apply for grants like the nonprofits that actually offer that.   and the arts and culture scene, I feel like it’s getting better, is more vibrant and there are lots of grants being given out and events and opportunities. So I think they were doing it. 

Yana Fry: Well, I love that and I know that Okay. You personally also have just launched your first talk show. And it’s a thing from my understanding, right? It especially focuses on the younger generation. Would it be okay to inspire, to educate, to Sue and it’s, it’s in the partnership with Escape would be correct, right? 

Rae Fung: Yes. Which is a nonprofit, so that’s why. 

Yana Fry: Okay. Like to be able to pitch it to Escape. She did it right.

I mean she just walked in and pitched to Escape. This is also an amazing part.

Rae Fung: Okay. That is very accurate. Power of networking and using your voice. So, yeah, I mean, to be able to skate and skate and to be supported by them and have everything done,   with the support of Skate, it’s, I mean, I’m blessed to be able to do this.

Once again, I don’t know if any other country has opportunities like this maybe, but I’m really proud of us for having that. So yeah, I have just launched Singapore’s first live in-person talk show. With an audience. So we did our first show on 26th March. It was. Wonderful, because it’s always been my dream to be Asian, Oprah.

Yana Fry: So I’m interviewing Asian Oprah, I mean, like, you, me, and, you know, create this safe space for,   younger generation.

Rae Fung: Yeah, I mean, for youth and young adults to have the difficult conversations about difficult topics like defining your own success, mental health,   marriage, maybe even divorce, things that you might not feel comfortable talking to with your friends around, especially in this part of the world.

Yeah. Especially in this part of the world where people care about showing face. Yeah, and likely so because, I dunno, I feel like especially in Asia, like people are more critical or like you’re just afraid that your employer is gonna see you talk about these things. So I think people are craving for that safe space to connect with people who understand them and have gone through similar things as them.

And to hear from experts on what to do moving forward. And that is what the talk show allows. Both of them. Oh, and the third thing is to have your voice heard. And that’s the power of a live in-person talk show is that we actually give the mic to people to ask their questions and to share their challenges.

And just by people sharing, it allows other people to share, once again, the power of your voice when you share your story when. Ask for help and share your challenge and ask for support. You are giving people around you permission to also do the same. And simply doing that, you are already injecting courage into people.

You’re helping people amplify their courage, and that’s what the talk show allows us to do. So really, really so happy that I’m able to do that and hold that space for people.

Yana Fry: Thank you so much, Rae. That was amazing. So thank you for joining us today on Yana TV. Thankfully it was such a, you know, honest, genuine, very insightful conversation, and all the best with talk shows.

I’m looking forward to coming and visiting. Yes. And see what is happening there. It’s on a tangent. Yes. Okay. So we are doing that and  I’m really gonna be watching you raising up and becoming Asian Oprah.

Rae Fung: Thank you so much, Yana. I think that exactly what we’re doing here, like having honest, authentic conversations is what we need more in this world.

Social media is so powerful because it amplifies voices. Yes. But unfortunately, it also amplifies a lot of voices that are destructive. Yes. And that I wish was not so obvious. And so I think that this is a call to action for each and every one of us. If you have something good to say. Say it. Say it because say it.

We need you to say it. There’s so much stuff that shouldn’t be said and people are hating on people online. We need voices that are pure, that are kind, and even if you’re not perfect, as long as you have a good intention to use your voice, use it on social media because it amplifies more kindness and love and courage, and that’s exactly what we need in this world.

People are scared and when you’re scared, We can’t progress when you’re scared. Voices are not shared. Messages are not, you know, put out there. And our gifts are not used. And in order for us to take away that fear, we need more people who are,   having the courage to use their voices. To use their voice.

We do it here. We do it just on Instagram, on, you know, we have social media platforms that are so accessible to you. Use your voice, do it now.

Yana Fry: Use your voice. Do it now. I love that. And hearing your encouragement, especially for the younger people because it’s the young generation, which is coming up.

To go out there and really talk about yourself, build communities, and also when you are now watching this video, whatever platform it is, Do share with us what your message is like, what it is that you are, what is your dream, right? Like when we talk about sharing your voice. What is it you would like to speak up about?

What is Rae’s dream voice to have a talk show? Here she is. Right? So she just launched it. Yeah. So what would that be for you? Just share this with us and the comments, we would really appreciate that.

Rae Fung: Yeah. And like this video and share it with your friends, like subscribe, share. No, but I mean, because if you don’t wanna use your voice yet, one way to support other people using your voice is to share and allow their algorithm to help us so that the right messages go viral.

Exactly. That’s why you should like chefs. Exactly. This is exactly why.

Yana Fry: So thank you so much for joining us today here.

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