#93 Wealth Beyond Money: A Tale of Transformation with Matt LeBris

In this episode we have Matt LeBris, a top 1% globally rated podcast host. He opens up about his journey to success, particularly achieving financial success at a young age. We talk about the importance of inner work, mastering the mind, and the potential consequences of neglecting personal growth. Matt shares his experiences, from a troubled childhood to gaining great wealth and the later realization that true healing involves more than financial success. The episode highlights the value of empathy, understanding, and the significance of deeper connections in our lives. Tune in now!

Discussion Topics: Wealth Beyond Money

• Introducing Matt LeBris: A top 1% globally rated podcast host
• Financial Success and Inner Work: Money wasn’t the solution to his problems, inner work was as important.
• Matt’s Entrepreneurial Journey: The significance of hustle and mindfulness in one’s pursuits.
• Transition to a Meaningful Life: Transitioning from a focus on money to building relationships and adding value.
• The Three M’s of Success: “Success 3.0” with the three M’s: Money, Mastery, and Meaning.
• Comparing Pain and Inner Work: Tendency to compare pain and the uniqueness of individual experiences.
• Empathy and Connection: The importance of empathy in human connections.
• Appreciating Family and Hugging: Appreciation of family, the fleeting nature of life, and deepening relationships.
• Closing Thoughts

Transcript: Wealth Beyond Money

Yana Fry: Hello everyone and welcome back to the Timeless Teachings Podcast. Today with us, we have Matt LeBris all the way from New York. So we have Singapore and New York connections. And when I asked him, how would you like me to introduce you in one sentence? He said he’s a work in progress. So Matt, I love that there’s so much humility in this, because I know you would have chosen many titles and it’s going to be a fascinating journey. Thank you for being here.

Matt LeBris: Oh, please. I need to thank you, Yana, for the opportunity. I’m very grateful for this and I’m super excited for it. So let’s do it.

Yana Fry: And what we’re going to be talking about today is a really interesting subject, also very close to my heart. So we’re going to talk about success. When you get, especially financial success at a very young age.

And then if you actually are not focused on your inner work and on your mind, particularly like mastering your mind, then what could happen in your life? And the reason why we’re having this conversation is just to raise awareness and to hear life stories. And so we can also learn. How, where did you grow up?

Matt LeBris: Yeah born and raised in New York City, I think this is something that I’m very grateful for. I think, and I say this humbly, of course, no matter where you are in the world, there are gifts and that’s exactly what New York City has blessed me with gifts, whether it be gifts of networking or connections or friendships or relationships, however, you want to frame it.

I think that is the number one gift I have been blessed with here. And that is something that will. Lead us into what you had just described. To fast forward a bit. I was a troubled child in short. I didn’t do well in school. I know it now, but back then I was the class clown as I was seeking my parents attention, probably more so my mother’s attention, which I didn’t feel like I got after my sister was born.

And as my parents were going through divorce, I opted to turn to trouble because that would give me attention. Granted, not good attention, but attention period. I got in trouble with the law. I didn’t do so well in school. It led me all the way to college to believe that with all of these problems that I have suppressed and pushed down into my life. I thought the one thing that would heal me was money. I thought if I amassed wealth. All of my problems would dissipate. And I’m going to be honest, that plan did work for quite some time.

Yana Fry: it worked for let’s call it three to five years, but you were at that time?

Matt LeBris: Late teens, early twenties.

Yana Fry: A lot of anger was accumulating and, ultimately, over the course of a period of time, everything that I had amassed started to dwindle. The pain resurfaced and it led me to where I am now, but it took loss and I think it took not just loss of the monetary, but loss of who I thought I was, loss of ego, loss of and you have to grieve those losses, right?

Matt LeBris: Loss of so many aspects, a loss of 20-plus years of life to an extent which it’s a scary thing, Going from a troubled childhood to a life that I’m building now. It’s night and day, literally night and day. that is the best way to sum it up.

Yana Fry: Thank you for sharing so openly. First of all, I really appreciate it. Um, when you say that you received a lot of money, was it inheritance money or how do we, or was it business like a, like early entrepreneurship skills? What was that?

Matt LeBris: Entrepreneurship. As mentioned, I didn’t do well in school. But I knew that I wanted to go to college. I just didn’t know what I wanted to go for. I was kicked out of high school two times here in New York City. I was definitely not good.

Funny enough, when I went to college, I went to study education to become a teacher it just doesn’t make sense, but ultimately it led me to fail out of college. I was just doing the wrong things. I had too much freedom and I didn’t know how to be disciplined with said freedom.

So I got a little carried away with that, but it led me to. Really tap into something that I believe once again, New York had blessed me with, which was hustle, right?

I think hustle is a really important thing. But at the time I wasn’t doing so mindfully. So what I mean is I was running myself down, but I was able to, cause I was just so young. I had the energy, right? And I had the drive. I had the determination. I had a business in hospitality here in New York city with a couple of my buddies where we ran events for seven plus years. I was delivering food for a local restaurant and very transparently, I was selling weed, and marijuana, which I shouldn’t have been doing. I was working at a gym. I was doing all of these things really just to accumulate this wealth. Or I really should say money and it was fun. It was really fun. It allowed me to tap into an animalistic side of me. But at the same time, like I said, I wasn’t doing so mindfully. So if you know anyone’s listening, I do believe in mindfully hustling versus that.

Yana Fry: Mindfully hustling. I love that. I actually, I never heard someone putting it this way and it just makes so much sense. It’s also very balanced. So you were doing all of that. And then for about two, three years, once the money came in, it was at an age particularly of like probably a big amount and you were expanding it frivolously and doing whatever, especially young boys doing their early twenties and late teens. And then what happened?

Matt LeBris: my mother started to battle cancer. She’s a warrior. She battled her way through. And I’m very grateful to still have her in my life, I was watching her battle cancer. I was going through my own transitions as I’m sure.

Listen, we’re always a work in progress, right? We’re always seasons are changing and whatnot, but. I realised that I needed to be of service and I’m going to be honest, I took it a little too far, because as I was being of service, whether it be in college as a student leader or.

Anywhere else I realised that I was giving it all away, right? And I was giving it all away while trying to maintain an image because I was scared people would look at me differently. I was in the process of transitioning out of a lot of the endeavours that I had told you about where I was hustling and I was focusing more of my energy on how I can be of value to this certain group.

Or community, how can I, be a value to whomever, and that pulled me away from the making of money to the making of more relationships and the making of adding value, which is a beautiful thing. I just didn’t know how to find the balance of that. And like I said, I didn’t want to lose my image. I still wanted to drive a certain type of car because my ego was invested in that.

I still wanted to eat it. At certain restaurants, because my ego was invested in that. I just didn’t want anyone to look at me as less than during seasons of change. And that led me to start to essentially blow everything I had. And while I’m not necessarily regretful. I’m going to be honest, it still hurts to look back and be wow, I had all of that and I let it go for the sake of ego.

It’s, just talking about it out loud with you, it’s eye opening to me still, regardless of how many years ago this was. But there’s still a part of me that feels a little bit of pain when talking about it.

Yana Fry: When you say you had to let go of all of that, that you still, a part of you is still regretting, what is it specifically we are referring to here? Is it people? Is it an opportunity? Is it connections you built?

Matt LeBris: yeah, when I was letting go, It’s the letting go of what we care about what other people think about us based on societal norms, right? It’s the letting go of that. For example, I see it all the time with social media. If someone’s driving this type of car, if someone’s dining at this type of restaurant, if someone’s wearing this clothing brand, if someone’s at this location on a vacation, we look at them in a certain light.

I’m definitely guilty of that where I’m like, Oh, they’re doing really good for themselves. I had to start to let go of that. And. That included letting go of some relationships that included letting go of the paradigms in my own mind and is still a work in progress because it’s deeply ingrained.

It’s ingrained for 31 years, for the most part. I think it gets ingrained a little bit deeper when we see the emotions that are connected to it, when we feel accepted, when we get the recognition, when we get the attention, right? It’s such a deep conversation, but the beginning of letting go of that is a very powerful place to start.

Yana Fry: I feel that what we are talking about here is the definition of success in the modern world and I think we’re all guilty of this at some point of our lives, that we are looking at the financial aspect of it. And this is like the main measure, how people also look at their own success and therefore their own self value.

And If that’s the only aspect of success we look at, then unfortunately we have situations like you had to live through, where like young people grew up and they are not educated from a young age that you also have to look at other things.

And today you just blow up very quickly whatever you have when it comes to money. I think earlier this year or maybe late last year, I had to give a speech that was interesting enough. It was actually about success and I called it success 3. 0 and then we put there like three M’s.

So the first M was money. And there’s the whole conversation: it was for a business audience, right? So the whole conversation was the importance of money. And of course, for a company, you need to have profit. And even for the individual, how are you going to pay bills if you don’t have money? So you need to have money.

It’s so money is not an evil. It is how we use it and how we interact with that. So as long as it is. Not defining who we are, and we are comfortable with that. And we, what you, maybe to paraphrase you, to say we use it mindfully, then everything is fine. You can be a billionaire and you can be absolutely fine if your head is in the right place, right?

Which brings us then to the second M, which at the time I called mastery. Particularly self mastery. So this is where we talk about mental mastery and mindfulness and inner work and like everything that is happening in your head and your heart and your body. So you understand it, you aligned with this.

It’s not pulling you in a different direction, right? And so we had this conversation where it’s such an important part of success. So if a person has self mastery, then you’re not tormented by the amount of money you have, but you can manage it. and then the third M was meaning. So you have the money, your mind, heart, body aligned, you know who you are and you’re comfortable with this in the world.

And then it’s exactly what you said also about the service and contribution. When you feel that you are doing something, which is first of all, meaningful for you. I often see, especially with people who fully fulfil their financial desires and they are comfortable.

With that kind of lifestyle that they have, and then again, then the next evolution would be people always wanting to go deeper and higher in their own happiness and their own understanding of life. And then once that is complete, so when we heal all our traumas, and when we heal everything that’s holding us back, then it’s very normal for humans to evolve to the next level, which would be given back to society.

And this is where the meaning comes in. So it feels like it would be wonderful if in our society we could expand this definition of success and include all those things. But then also with your story, you wouldn’t be who you are today if you didn’t go through all of that, right? It was an important part of your journey.

Matt LeBris: 100%. I think it’s so incredible how life unfolds, right? Like I’m listening to you elaborate on the three M’s. And the first thing that pops in my mind is I. Was pursuing those three M’s, but not necessarily in the order in which was described. it’s different if you pursue them in said order that you had laid out me, I was all over the place.

And, but like you said, you wouldn’t be who you are unless your life panned out the way that it did And I sit here and i’m grateful for it, you know to an extent and there’s another part of me that is Still working on getting over the aspect of regret

Yana Fry: So we were talking about the importance of doing an inner deeper work and particularly probably for people who are in business, right? Because that’s often and if I may say so myself as a woman, so in my experience, it applies even more to men.

Because somehow guys feel that it’s not serious enough or it’s not hustling. What do you mean? I’m going to sit there and look into my mind. Does it really make me a man? So there are still a lot of conversations around it. And for me, it’s interesting as I have been watching now for many years, all kinds of people going through their life.

I see it a hundred percent. So just exactly how you share it in your story, and I’m so glad that you realise it’s so young that you still have so many years ahead of you to actually build what you really want. Because what also happens often in a society, I think particularly in Asian society, often people realise. In their 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s only, that money is not everything, and you need to take care of your health, relationships, the world around you, and sometimes it is just too late. So it’s important, I find, that you share your journey.

Matt LeBris: Oh, I appreciate that. I started therapy when I was 27 years old. I just turned 31 a couple weeks ago. And one thing that I learned is that as a male, I believe it actually makes you more masculine, if you are willing to face the demons, or if you are willing to face what has been suppressed, because that is a tough battle, like whether you are the strongest physically, whether you are the smartest intellectually, whether you are the richest monetarily, no matter what, like the skills that you put forth to get to those levels.

Is very applicable to what it takes to turn inward as well. Like it’s a form of, it’s a form of mastery, right? It’s a, to turn inward and to start to remove the masks and to. Start to dig out all of the stuff that you had pushed down like that takes a real man as opposed to one that will push it all away and just keep moving forward. Let’s be realistic, it takes a lot of courage to live with that weight.

And it manifests, as you mentioned, it manifests in bad health, it manifests in poor relationships, it manifests in different ways. But… It takes a real man and a real woman, to turn inward, no matter forget about gender. It takes a real individual

Yana Fry: Individual person, human being.

Matt LeBris: That’s it. It takes a real individual to pursue that journey. That is without a doubt.

Yana Fry: I love that. So that for the same like I can say for myself again from a female perspective the same way you get access to a much deeper femininity as a woman because then you also make peace with your demons and every woman just every man would have what they consider to be their dark sides or they’re Something they are not willing to look at but actually when we do This is when you get your deeper, most ancient, most primal power that you’re also in control of.

So it is not running you. So it’s like I feel like for the guys, if this darker side is not fully integrated. Then it’s often expressed in violence or in dominance, in like excessive control, in just like a very hot temper.

So it’s destructive. Men start wars, they shut down buildings, there are killings, there are rapes, there are all kinds of things that are happening just because again, men by nature are. The body is different. It is stronger. Usually, it is bigger. So it’s a, it’s like a physical expression of that side, which has not been addressed.

And so it’s almost dangerous for everyone around. So for a woman who is not processing her own darker side, she becomes her worst enemy. Because then it becomes very low self esteem, depression, self sabotage, all kinds of self destruction attempts, all eating or whatever disorders really dysfunctional relationships.

So it’s interesting how it’s just important that we acknowledge more and make it the norm, that. We need to talk about those things and it makes us stronger,

Matt LeBris: Absolutely. I can’t even tell you how much it has benefited me on the relationship side of things, intimately friendship. I’ll give you an example. I was with a group of friends that I honestly haven’t hung out with in quite some time.

And we had gone to a bachelor party for a buddy of mine who’s getting married. And one individual in particular angry two times on the trip with me in particular and the last night we were there I had triggered him because we were you know, we were guys we still do the locker room talk whether we do therapy or not we bust each other’s chops.

Yana Fry: But it’s okay.

Matt LeBris: It’s okay, right? It’s okay at times, maybe it does get taken a little overboard and someone does get a little emotional or sensitive and you poke the bear a little too much.

And you witness how. When you don’t do the work when you don’t turn inward, when you don’t, or I should say, when you continue to suppress how it manifests in anger, how it manifests and it gets taken out on people that didn’t cause anything, and I was the culprit of that because I poked the bear a little bit too much and I had saw it firsthand.

And I literally said to the individual I’m referring to, I said, You know what? I apologise for my actions. I didn’t know that they were going to trigger you. That was not my intention whatsoever. My intention was to get you back into the conversation because you were quiet for a little bit.

So I had brought him in by poking fun. And I sat there and I just saw what that did to him. And it’s. It’s wild, but I’m glad that I personally have turned inward because I was able to change myself very quickly in that moment to connect with him on a level that I don’t think anyone’s ever connected with him on, meaning I was able to see him.

I was able to acknowledge the fact that he’s in pain. He might not want to acknowledge the fact that he’s in pain, but when I vocalise that to him, it diffused the situation like this. when you turn inward, you’re able to do that and I’ve seen it happen firsthand. I’m in the best relationship I’ve ever been in my life. Like it is, it’s beautiful to witness that, but I wouldn’t have been able to do that without that turn inward. I’m not able to do that just by reading books. No, like I had to face myself and that levels up your awareness, that levels up your empathy, that levels up so many areas of your life. And it’s very fruitful, the returns.

Yana Fry: In a situation you have to take responsibility. As one of my friends and teachers a very long time ago, Blair Singer, used to say when the emotions go up, the intelligence goes down. And I just love it. Your example, is because we don’t want to walk around, lecture our friends, or try to fix people.

No one is broken, at least in my point of view, right? People are always trying their best, and there are so many reasons why even someone is suffering. Sometimes it pains us to see someone else suffering. But it’s not our business to relieve their suffering and intervene in their life because there is a reason why they have to go through this to learn something.

And it’s again like another friend of mine who is just a phenomenal yoga teacher says, and I love this thing, that the plan is perfect. It is just not your plan. And so to me, it’s like a great way, how we don’t know while people are going through experiences that they’re going through.

But then to your example, if we just show this love and compassion and understanding in a non confrontational way, but showing some empathy and it’s a deeper level of connection. It. It gives them a direct experience. So we’re not intellectually saying something necessary. We are actually creating a situation where a person feels love and understood and not attacked. And that relaxes something in a human being.

Matt LeBris: Oh, absolutely 100%. I think empathy is probably one of the number one skills an individual can develop and I believe empathy comes down to a simple word. It comes down to understanding, but people can misinterpret that because Yana, you could experience something in life that I’ll never experience.

So it’s hard for me to understand that. But what we can understand is the emotion that experience caused you. So I think if we can understand how to develop empathy, forget about trying to compare situations, compare experiences, but empathise with what’s provoked by those experiences. So for example, the story I told, I think the individual that I encountered this weekend had that anger built up inside of him because he had lost his father at a young age.

He is someone who has suppressed all of these things that have popped up in his life and hasn’t necessarily vocalised them to someone and let them out. He hasn’t turned inward. And I’m not saying that to shame him, but. I know he’s experiencing pain. I’m able to empathise with him.

I didn’t lose my father. My father’s still alive. I can’t resonate with that, but I can resonate with being in pain because I too have been in pain and I too will still experience pain in the future because it’s a part of life, right? So when we’re able to find ourselves and get on that level by saying, all right, let’s move past the experience. What’s the emotion coming up for you? You’re able to tap into empathy and you could really change lives.

Yana Fry: It is so true, and it is such an important point that you are saying because I also just hear it so often from people when someone tries to share something. Whether it is pain or anger, but it’s particularly around pain, shame, and regret, I must say. Like those three. So when someone tries to share something really personal and the other person or other people often say, Oh, that’s nothing.

You have no idea what I lived through. And then they go with their own story and which in their own eyes may be much more dramatic. And I’m just wondering exactly what you said that white people need to happen so that human beings stop comparing. You can’t compare pain, pain is pain.

So actually what I heard psychologists saying, the intensity of pain between two people sometimes can be the same, or it could even be that person that sort of in the eyes of the society has. Lesser drama has much stronger pain than the other individual because it also depends on our capacity to handle trauma.

And again, from all my years of inner work that I have done there is this also a belief, which again I heard from my friends who are professional psychologists, that when you look at the human being and you start going really deep at the core, so there are usually two aspects That a human being would fall either one or another and need to work on.

So people are either afraid and can’t handle traumas or they’re afraid of pain. So they really struggle, handle pain, and they’re learning their entire life how to do this. Or they’re afraid of emptiness. And they’re doing everything they can to fill this void with something so it doesn’t feel empty.

And so those two seem to be the drive, humans at the core. And to your point, that we really should stop comparing our stories. and just be there for each other. This is it, really.

Matt LeBris: That’s it. Yeah, we’re human beings, right? I think we forget that sometimes, it’s funny. I didn’t think that my parents were human beings. I thought they were parents,

Yana Fry: Wow, I think we’re all guilty of that, Matt.

Matt LeBris: We’re all just trying to figure it out. And you I don’t know what makes us forget that, like I can’t tell you how many times I’ll have road rage. Like I said, I’m a work in progress. And it’s Matt, sit back for a second and realise that person’s just trying to get somewhere like you are, just realise that person behind the wheel of that car or on that bicycle or on that scooter or whatever, they’re human being too, and they’re just trying to do the best that they can do, and the best that they can do may not be on your level of the best that you can do, or maybe their levels higher That doesn’t even matter. Like they’re just human beings. We forget it. And, this conversation alone is making me think like, why do we forget that in the moment?

Yana Fry: This is like a, this is like a question for God. I don’t know how we can answer this because we are wired this way. But how do we actually remember? And when you said about parents, I had to laugh to myself because I went through such a journey with my parents, like over the years, I think like everyone else.

I think it was the cover of the Granta magazine they had a few years ago and they had this very funny sort of slogan there. They said, family, they fuck you up. You cannot live with them, and you cannot live without them. And to me, it was just so true.

When you talk to people, everyone would have something related to their families that they’re not happy about, that they want to work with, whether it is a sibling, a parent, a step parent, an uncle, or aunt or grandparents.

But I find that people truly learn how to appreciate each other, especially when it comes to our family members, when we are confronted with death.

But again, and it’s my absolutely subjective experience here, I find that if a human being have never lived through the experience of losing someone they loved due to death, physical death,

That people would say, look, life is just so short.

Even if you live 300 years, it is so short. And your, particularly parents, right? They are much older than us. Even if they had us when they were young, they are still older than us. If life unfolds in a natural way, probably they would go first.

I find it helps to keep this check of the reality where if we remember that our family members are not going to be around forever, then whatever conflicts we feel like we have in our mind, I just found many of them get diffused.

You don’t even have to work on it. Because then each day when you have with the person you. And I think that’s why people appreciate it much more and again for me,

So I remember when I was 16. It was, and I saw death also before that, but particularly when I was 16. I remember very clearly my mom was very sick at the time and I was spending, and I’m from a broken family. My father walked away when I was much younger, so she was the only parent I had.

And so I just remember sitting like on the cold floor in the hospital the whole night outside of her room and thinking, and doctors were not sure whether she was going to make it or not. And I remember thinking to myself, So what happens if she goes, I’m 16 years old. I have no one to turn to. There’s no protection, support, or guidance in any way.

And there was such a deep appreciation for the connection. And it’s interesting that since then, there have been so many, and she’s now in her 70s, and she’s very well. It has been like so many years since then. But every time I see my loved ones. I actually remember how fleeting life is.

So I find that immediately deepens relationships. I

Matt LeBris: and walking away with this is probably the most valuable thing that you could have given me. I am very honest about this. I probably argue with my mother more than I talk to her normally. It’s that type of relationship and with my father, I lack a deep bond and, you just mentioned the fact that life is short and if you quote unquote normal life, our parents will die before us.

It made me realise one thing that I want to start to do is give both of my parents a hug. eVery day, I see them. whEther I’m arguing with my mother when I give her a hug or and no matter how awkward it may be, when I give my dad a hug I’m going to test myself and try to do this.

I don’t know where that came from, whether you’re delivering a message from God to me right now, or anyone else that’s listening to this. But if I walk away with just that it is like a massive gift.

Yana Fry: I feel so much love in my heart right now that it almost makes me emotional, listening to you because it is so beautiful. It’s such a beautiful realisation and I just feel it heals so many things in the relationship. Again, just that. Often we don’t even need to talk about things. Hugs, one of the key points of connection between people. It’s non verbal, it is physical, it expresses, and you can tell so much about so many things when a person actually holds you. I’m very happy for your parents and you.

Matt LeBris: laughing because as first of all, I will say this, I didn’t want to feel like I had to be the one to lead to ensure that the relationship was better.

There’s a little bit of awkwardness for me to do this because I view it as they’re older, they’re more experienced, they’re whatever, they should be the one to do it, but I’m going to do it. I am going to do it.

Well, I, please tell, please let me know. Okay, I would love to hear, actually, like in a few weeks or in a few months, how it goes and what changes and how you feel about it, how they feel about it. And I think it’s a wonderful idea. And in general, it’s like an open message to everyone who is also listening to us.

Yana Fry: Let’s hug more. Everyone, hug people we love, hug people, even those people we don’t like that much, again, physical contact, it eliminates many arguments between people. So we are, especially, for example, if a human being is not in a relationship, like not in a romantic relationship and maybe family is not very close. Who is going to touch this person? And touch, it’s such a, and because also in a society, we usually don’t do that. We don’t go touch strangers.

It’s like social, not acceptable. So he is a human being, right? Let’s say maybe who lives alone. There are plenty of people like that who are massively touch deprived.

So your idea of hugging, I would again, just invite our audience to extend it even more.

So please let’s hug our friends, our children, our parents, our partners, our animals. They also want to be hugged. And it is just. They’re also what helps humans to connect.

Matt LeBris: Absolutely. I love this, Yana. This was fantastic.

Yana Fry: Mad. Absolutely agree. I was trying to find what word I wanted to say right now. It went in such a multidimensional deep conversation that we haven’t entirely planned. And I love how it all turned out just with where we are today. So thank you. Thank you so much for showing up for the interview.

And I do hope to those people who are listening to us or watching this right now, that you. realised something, or maybe it made you think about something, or maybe you got an insight. And I’m one of those people who always believe that it’s very important to actually go and implement this in real life.

So Matt says that he’s going to go and hug his parents. So if you are listening to this right now, again, it’s just an invitation. Just ask yourself what it is that you would like to do as a result of this conversation. So thank you so much for being here.

Matt LeBris: Oh, Yana, thank you for the opportunity. I’m very grateful.

Our Guest: Matt LeBris

Matt LeBris is a born and raised NY’er who inevitably caught the hustler’s spirit which fills the air of his hometown streets. After working with Shark Tank’s Daymond John for 3 years, he ventured off to launch his show, The Decoding Success Podcast, and his award-winning NYC based branding agency, 1B Branding. 

The Decoding Success Podcast features the world’s most successful individuals in business, sports, literature, science, and more, to help you think and live larger.